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Ebay Wifi Relay boards

#1 Post by Dylantje » 16 Dec 2016, 22:03

Dear All,

Someone now of this board can be flashed with Espeasy?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-4-Channel-Wi ... Swo4pYUOxy

And 8 channel:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LinkSprite-8-Ch ... SwImRYMmEL

Or 8 channel:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Channel-USB-W ... Nvhv9HkXjg

Or does somebody have a better solution?


i will try to switch my gardne lights... 1 by 1 With Domoticz..
So i need 2 sepperate 6-8 channel relay boards..
I can have only wifi acces.

Now i get 1 esp8266 nodemcu with a normal relaisboard, only can not switch 8 channels, [ wrong setup perhaps? ] only i do cannot find the good pins for 8 channels.

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#2 Post by pacitzu » 16 Dec 2016, 22:16

i flashed lInknode R4 (four relay) with last EspEasy with Arduino IDE.
it works without problems

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#3 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 06:49

Have you seen this one, the MPRSx8 Home Automation Board?

Features:
  • - Compact, standard size: 16x5 cm! (half Eurocard height)
    - Universal AC MAINS input (240VAC/50Hz (EU) or 110V/60Hz (US)
    - Safe operation design
    - Proper MOV and high quality ceramic FUSE MAINS input protection.
    - 8 x MAINS rated 15A Relays
    - 8 x independent swithing Power Channels
    - LED signaling Panel for each Power Channel Status
    - Integrated switchmode MAINS PSU
    - Separate high efficient switchmode PSU for command & control circuit
    - Can work also from a external +12V power supply just not install the MAINS PSU
    - I2C / nEXT Bus compatible - you can add your own extension modules - light sensors, gas, motion, etc
    - Can be stacked upto 8 boards for a total of 64 Power Channels!!
    - Compatible with any I2C compatible MCU/Board: Arduino, ARM, PIC, ATMEGA, ESP8266, ESP32, RaspberryPI, etc
    - ESP8266 friendly design: can add your ESP8266 module directly onboard for a full WIFI MAINS Power switchboard solution
    - Full access to ESP8266 pins thru 2 headers gives you even more flexibility in developing your projects!
    - Full programming header (Tx, Rx, GPIO0 and Reset)
General Presentation and hardware description - Youtube Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S74KL67ZHo

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It's supported by ESPEasy firmware and it's working very well. I will post full ESPEasy and Domoticz examples soon.

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#4 Post by papperone » 18 Dec 2016, 09:30

Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
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#5 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 10:39

papperone wrote:Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

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#6 Post by Dylantje » 18 Dec 2016, 12:50

MMM Thanks will order on of these!!!
incl a power supply on board great!!

Doe you have perhaps the exact dimensions...
Need to build this in a place...

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#7 Post by Dylantje » 18 Dec 2016, 13:16

What are the different specs??
https://www.tindie.com/products/Armtron ... y-for-iot/
Whit this one?

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#8 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 13:23

Dylantje wrote:MMM Thanks will order on of these!!!
incl a power supply on board great!!

Doe you have perhaps the exact dimensions...
Need to build this in a place...
Hi Dylantje,

Board size is 16x5cm! (half Eurocard height). Board height is 2cm. A good enclosure volume will start at 16x5x2.5cm. As a good practice some extra space for ventilation cannot harm at all. Bigger is better.

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#9 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 13:58

Dylantje wrote:What are the different specs??
https://www.tindie.com/products/Armtron ... y-for-iot/
Whit this one?
It is a total different approach from MAINS PSU voltage levels to relays drivers and size. Looks like is based on a Atmega MCU.
Did you manage to find a schematic for it? At a first look I don't see any FUSE and MOV protection on MAINS side.
Also I hope they have done properly their math when calculated the maximum power consumption for that 5V PSU. As they are using 5V Relays looks quite to the limit...5x8 Relays ON + ESP8266 WIFI ON + the rest.

On the other side, MPRSx8 is using a 12Vcc PSU for some good reasons: to reduce power consumption per Relay Channel and also to keep it compatible with the standard 12Vcc rails that you can find in many home and industrial automation projects. After that the 12vcc->3.3Vcc DC-DC High-Efficiency Step-down regulator insure that the ESP8266 and the logic part of the board receives the proper voltage and current all the times.

You can find more about MPRSx8 design in this Hardware description Youtube Video
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#10 Post by Dylantje » 18 Dec 2016, 14:43

Mmmm looks great
I see some PINS on the board (flashing)
Are there perhaps more PINS avaleble fit Just like a pir or dht sensor

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#11 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 15:14

Dylantje wrote:Mmmm looks great
I see some PINS on the board (flashing)
Are there perhaps more PINS avaleble fit Just like a pir or dht sensor
On MPRSx8 Home automation board you have:
- I2C / nEXT Bus compatible connector - you can add your own extension modules - light sensors, gas, motion, etc. They are already a lot available all over the place.
- Compatible with any I2C compatible MCU/Board: Arduino, ARM, PIC, ATMEGA, ESP8266, ESP32, RaspberryPI, etc
- ESP8266 friendly design: can add your ESP8266 module directly onboard for a full WIFI MAINS Power switchboard solution
- Full access to ESP8266 pins thru 2 headers gives you even more flexibility in developing your projects!
- Full programming header (Tx, Rx, GPIO0 and Reset)

That I think means a LOT of options and flexibility in terms of extension boards, sensors, etc, that you can use with.

You can add even a MPDMv4 Universal Dimmer Board for a full dimmable light channel for example.
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#12 Post by papperone » 18 Dec 2016, 15:45

trackerj wrote:
papperone wrote:Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.
Well I spoke personally, and as many here (i believe) can self-build boards such that with much less costs, which actually I do and thus I can have full control on size, functionality and design.
I fully understand and aknowledge in your case it just to cover the developping and testing costs but, and sorry to maybe sounds unpolite nad harsh, I don't see this fourm as an advertising site but more a forum to share opinion and usage of the ESPEasy software and as well how to "hack it" into available hardware...
I see this as an hobby, so I don't mind if I need to spent some time to build and debug, to wait for hardware and components (from China or EU, I buy from where it's more convenient for me, balancing time and costs).
I don't have a job to deliver next week so I need a fast shipping, and by the way buy from China I can always choose to have free-shipping (waiting longer) or pay for shipping (and delivery in 1 week) and that's the point, I can choose; personally (and still this is MY opinion) I don't buy from sites where I'm forced to pay for fast shipping, it's a free world so I believe I shoudl be able to choose :)

Nothign to say about this board, it looks great, very well assembled but it simply does not fit my need and my way of approaching this hobby :)
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#13 Post by trackerj » 18 Dec 2016, 19:46

papperone wrote:
trackerj wrote:
papperone wrote:Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.
Well I spoke personally, and as many here (i believe) can self-build boards such that with much less costs, which actually I do and thus I can have full control on size, functionality and design.
I fully understand and aknowledge in your case it just to cover the developping and testing costs but, and sorry to maybe sounds unpolite nad harsh, I don't see this fourm as an advertising site but more a forum to share opinion and usage of the ESPEasy software and as well how to "hack it" into available hardware...
I see this as an hobby, so I don't mind if I need to spent some time to build and debug, to wait for hardware and components (from China or EU, I buy from where it's more convenient for me, balancing time and costs).
I don't have a job to deliver next week so I need a fast shipping, and by the way buy from China I can always choose to have free-shipping (waiting longer) or pay for shipping (and delivery in 1 week) and that's the point, I can choose; personally (and still this is MY opinion) I don't buy from sites where I'm forced to pay for fast shipping, it's a free world so I believe I shoudl be able to choose :)

Nothign to say about this board, it looks great, very well assembled but it simply does not fit my need and my way of approaching this hobby :)
Thank you for your thoughts about. It's nothing unpolite or harsh in your post, there are your personal opinions and I respect them.

Is no site forcing you to pay for anything, it's a free world, nobody is forcing nobody to do anything. Look thru the thread above, somebody asked about some Relay Boards that can be used with ESPEasy and because I was working these days to some ESPEasy related Tutorials I was thinking that it's good to give some extra options for diversity. Maybe they are people out there that are interested, some as you, might not. I see this action more like sharing knowledge. And as we are talking about the MPRSx8 Relay board here, a board designed to work out of the box with ESPEasy and Domoticz ... I was thinking that this is just the right place to be shared.

Happy breadboarding,
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#14 Post by Dylantje » 18 Dec 2016, 20:26

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Guys....
This place is the best option ther eis to share..
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Lobe the Internet...
Thanks for all the nice things i am happy with the options persons here give.
Money is the worlds bad thing... Or perhaps..... We need it....

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#15 Post by Dylantje » 21 Dec 2016, 20:25

What is the best way to use the relayboard.
Switching the Live or the N?

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#16 Post by trackerj » 21 Dec 2016, 21:40

Dylantje wrote:What is the best way to use the relayboard.
Switching the Live or the N?
LIVE line all the time.
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#17 Post by Dylantje » 01 Jan 2017, 16:37

Do have the board @ hom..
See the wifi that's sensding
Connect with it...
only what is the standard ip for the setup page?

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#18 Post by trackerj » 01 Jan 2017, 16:47

Dylantje wrote:Do have the board @ hom..
See the wifi that's sensding
Connect with it...
only what is the standard ip for the setup page?
First time it will start in AP mode.
You need to find the related WIFI network SSID, in the format of ESP XX:XX:XX connect to that , and after you are connected OK and ended on your PC/tablet/phone/whatever you use with a 192.168.4.x IP you can go and connect to 192.168.4.1
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#19 Post by Dylantje » 01 Jan 2017, 17:01

mmm
I think ... why is there no place where someone tell me the AP adres...............

Only i do have him on my network.
Looks it is acthing very fast, that's ok...

Pehaps a direct http link for all the relays?
That is the only thing i need in Domoticz..

Or do i need to reflash with espeasy?


And how can i controll the pins without the Espeasy flash?

Wil try to set an temp/hum sensor on 1 pin..
Perhaps some help.?

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#20 Post by trackerj » 01 Jan 2017, 17:11

Dylantje wrote:mmm
I think ... why is there no place where someone tell me the AP adres...............

Only i do have him on my network.
Looks it is acthing very fast, that's ok...

Pehaps a direct http link for all the relays?
That is the only thing i need in Domoticz..

Or do i need to reflash with espeasy?


And how can i controll the pins without the Espeasy flash?

Wil try to set an temp/hum sensor on 1 pin..
Perhaps some help.?
Did you connect to it?
It's not loaded with ESPBasic? Or did you ordered with ESPEasy firmware? You can see from the main Setup window what type of firmware do you have already loaded on it. By default you have the Relays web interface demo software from the Youtube videos.

What kind of temp/hum sensor you want to connect? You can use the nEXT Bus connector to quickly hook up a I2C one.
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#21 Post by Dylantje » 01 Jan 2017, 17:16

mm i did pay for some software..
I see only the standard webgui i think...
Need some dirext http acces to th pins..
The sensor:
https://www.google.nl/search?q=dht+sens ... BMAQsAQIRQ


How the reflash with Easeasy?

What pins do i need to use?


And is the easpeasy software working with this board?

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#22 Post by trackerj » 01 Jan 2017, 17:27

Dylantje wrote:mm i did pay for some software..
I see only the standard webgui i think...
Need some dirext http acces to th pins..
The sensor:
https://www.google.nl/search?q=dht+sens ... BMAQsAQIRQ


How the reflash with Easeasy?

What pins do i need to use?


And is the easpeasy software working with this board?
Do you have the ESPBasic version loaded ? can you please confirm it?
If yes, you have also loaded as default the demo program for the board, with a web relay interface. When you reboot the ESP module, you will see a blink on the blue led and after few seconds another set of blinks. that means that your default program was launched and you can access the Relay Command interface.
Also in the files folder you have the scanbus.bas program utility that will help you to work with extra I2C bus devices that you can connect directly on the nEXT Bus connector.

You can use it as it is or you can upload ESPEasy on it, it's working very well with both.
For programming you need to use the programming header on the left.

For any specific related help, if you contact me directly I will be more than happy to help you.
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#23 Post by ThinkPadNL » 18 Jan 2017, 08:08

I can confirm that the Linknode R4 is working great with ESPEasy. I bought one a few days ago and immediately flashed it with ESPEasy (4096 flash size).
To get started easily, i have posted which GPIO belongs to which relay and such here: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/li ... 3#49734053 and also some commands on how to control the relays with MQTT.

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#24 Post by woody4165 » 21 Jan 2017, 09:23

ThinkPadNL wrote:I can confirm that the Linknode R4 is working great with ESPEasy. I bought one a few days ago and immediately flashed it with ESPEasy (4096 flash size).
To get started easily, i have posted which GPIO belongs to which relay and such here: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/li ... 3#49734053 and also some commands on how to control the relays with MQTT.
Hi

how did you upload espeasy to R4?
via arduino ide or how?

Thanks

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#25 Post by ThinkPadNL » 24 Jan 2017, 18:46

woody4165 wrote:
ThinkPadNL wrote:I can confirm that the Linknode R4 is working great with ESPEasy. I bought one a few days ago and immediately flashed it with ESPEasy (4096 flash size).
To get started easily, i have posted which GPIO belongs to which relay and such here: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/li ... 3#49734053 and also some commands on how to control the relays with MQTT.
Hi

how did you upload espeasy to R4?
via arduino ide or how?

Thanks
I download the stable package and flashed the precompiled .bin with the flashtool that was in the .zip file.

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#26 Post by Shardan » 24 Jan 2017, 19:49

trackerj wrote:
papperone wrote:Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.

Well, that might be true or not.
But if that is really tested, why didn't the manufacturer notice, that the used relays are not designed for european mains voltage?
Take a near look ath the relays: 125V~ maximum! I would not use that module for home automation switching mains voltage.
If something goes wrong and it gets on fire your insurance might have a word for it....... "No!"
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#27 Post by trackerj » 25 Jan 2017, 14:34

Shardan wrote:
trackerj wrote:
papperone wrote:Looks nice but 50$ including shipping is too expensive IMHO...
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.

Well, that might be true or not.
But if that is really tested, why didn't the manufacturer notice, that the used relays are not designed for european mains voltage?
Take a near look ath the relays: 125V~ maximum! I would not use that module for home automation switching mains voltage.
If something goes wrong and it gets on fire your insurance might have a word for it....... "No!"
Dear Shardan,

I am very sorry but is NOT true your statement above: The LEG-1A-12F relays (15A version not 10A one) used for the MPRSx8 Home Automation Board are also working OK for 240VAC.
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#28 Post by Dylantje » 26 Mar 2017, 15:17

ThinkPadNL wrote: 18 Jan 2017, 08:08 I can confirm that the Linknode R4 is working great with ESPEasy. I bought one a few days ago and immediately flashed it with ESPEasy (4096 flash size).
To get started easily, i have posted which GPIO belongs to which relay and such here: https://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/li ... 3#49734053 and also some commands on how to control the relays with MQTT.
Dear ThinkPad...
Hope you will come back sometime's on Domoticcz.... :-)

....
I try to flash the latest esp firmware on the board..
I try to flash the Linknode R8 with the flashtool, no luck at all.
Wil you please tell me the pins that i need to use for the flashmode.
Is there a jumper setting?
Or perhaps a How to or a movie?

Try a lot of pins on the linknode R8 only get no writing on the board.

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#29 Post by Shardan » 26 Mar 2017, 16:28

trackerj wrote: 25 Jan 2017, 14:34
Shardan wrote:
trackerj wrote:
First of all I want to Thank you for your feedback!

"Too expensive" comparing to what? Cheap China Boards available on Ebay and sold under the "sell-and-forget-about" strategy? It's a Apples vs. Oranges comparation.
Proper testing, support, software examples and tutorials, all come with a price. Similar boards are in the $100+ range.

If you want it cheaper, you can just order it without a full programmed and tested ESP8266 and add yours on arrival. It will be just $32.98. Same if you want to use it with RPi, ARM or whatever, without ESP8266.

And yes, it's not "free shipping" as it not coming from China. But can be on your table in less than a week, especially if you are in EU. Without any Customs taxes, VAT and any other fancy things that might hit your pocket extra at arrival.
"Cheap" is comming with a price all the time.

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.

Well, that might be true or not.
But if that is really tested, why didn't the manufacturer notice, that the used relays are not designed for european mains voltage?
Take a near look ath the relays: 125V~ maximum! I would not use that module for home automation switching mains voltage.
If something goes wrong and it gets on fire your insurance might have a word for it....... "No!"
Dear Shardan,

I am very sorry but is NOT true your statement above: The LEG-1A-12F relays (15A version not 10A one) used for the MPRSx8 Home Automation Board are also working OK for 240VAC.
Notabene: I have two Linknode R8, ordered from an european seller. The relays on that boards are definitely not approved for 230V.
As I do not use them for mains voltage, it doesn't matter for my purposes, but....

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Shardan
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#30 Post by Shardan » 26 Mar 2017, 16:42

Dylantje wrote: 26 Mar 2017, 15:17 ....
I try to flash the latest esp firmware on the board..
I try to flash the Linknode R8 with the flashtool, no luck at all.
Wil you please tell me the pins that i need to use for the flashmode.
Is there a jumper setting?
Or perhaps a How to or a movie?

Try a lot of pins on the linknode R8 only get no writing on the board.
Hello Dylantje,

i can confirm it works on the R8.

- Disconnect power from the module.

- The header "J1" has three pins, G, Tx and Rx. These shoud be connected to the programmer cable/adaptor accordingly.
Some manufacturers are not quite clear with these, so if it does not work, try swapping Rx and Tx.

- The second header has pins GND , DIO0 and 3,3V. A jumper is set to DIO0-3,3V for normal use (start firmware on chip).
Set this jumper to GND-DIO0, this activates the boot loader for flashing new firmware when starting the ESP.

- Now start the flash process on your computer and immediately power up the ESP on the Linknode.

- after flashing set the jumper back to DIO0-3,3V and power off and back on after a few seconds.

Hope that helps

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#31 Post by Dylantje » 26 Mar 2017, 18:24

@ Shardan.

THANKS!!!
This was what i need... the jumper i mist.....

Is there perhaps als a free gpio where i can put a DHT on?
Or perhaps the extra 9 switch...?
I mean is there a gpio on the board that is not in use for the 8 relais.
And where i can put on a other sensor

Thanks again!!

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#32 Post by Shardan » 26 Mar 2017, 20:12

Hello Dylantje,

on the manufacturers webside there is a list of the used GPIO's:
LinkNode_R8-GPIO.jpg
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Website: http://linksprite.com/wiki/index.php5?t ... controller

According to that list the GPIO's 2 and 9 should be unused.
So it is possible to solder a wire to one of these GPIO's for connecting a DHT.

Another way to connect a DHT easily, e.g. for testing (Didn't try that myself but it should work):
When ESPEasy is flashed and running, you may switch off the serial port:

- double check that the ESP is working properly with the firmware!
- open the R8's webpage
- go to --> Tools --> Advanced
- uncheck the "Enable Serial Port" box.

The serial port uses GPIO1 (Tx) and GPIO 3 (Rx).
Then you may connect a DHT to GND, GPIO and 3,3V direectly at the pin headers.
(Don't forget the pullup resistor 10K from 3,3V to the data/GPIO pin).

This allows to connect a DHT without soldering wires to the ESP chip on the board.

Remember that this makes impossible diagnosing the ESP via serial port.

It might be possible to connect a DHT even to the GPIO0 (DIO0) header.
Definitely be carefull and test that before going live for a reason:
I'm not sure if the DHT gives "low" or "high" at startup so this may lead into
booting into flash mode permanently. Not dangerous: If you switch off the device
at that point it just does nothing, but it should be tested thoroughly:

- Connect a DHT to GPIO0 (don't forget the pullup resistor 10K from 3,3V to the data/GPIO pin).

- Switch off and back on several times, check if the webpage is alive and the device works every time you restart.

Advantage: You don't loose the serial port so reflashing and diagnosis if necessary it's easy to do.

Hope that helps

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Re: Ebay Wifi Relay boards

#33 Post by Dylantje » 27 Mar 2017, 08:20

Thanks!!!
The uncheck the serial.
And the on gpio1 is working great!!!

1 thing..
When i power off and then power on..
There is 1 relay clicking on.. GPIO 10

when i use this board with lights, all the lights are off with power up.
Only GPIO 10 not..

Do you perhaps a solution for that?

xxx

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#34 Post by Shardan » 27 Mar 2017, 09:58

Hello Dylantje,

hm... not out of the box.
Check if the GPIO is set to default boot state:
- Open the webpage of the R8
- Go to "Hardware"
- Check the Setting of "Pin mode 10 (D12)", it should read "Default" usually.

It might help if you set it to "Output low". This says, that the GPIO is an output and should be set to "low" on bootup.
This is limited to bootup - if something inside the ESPEasy sets the GPIO10, this won't help.
Please check if the On/Off function is still working after this setting.

If that does not help there is a somewhat crude workaround.
Use a rule that switches off the GPIO10 at startup. This might make the GPIO10 switch on for a moment and then switch off.

- Open the webpage of the device.
- go to --> Tools --> Advanced
- scroll down and check the "Rules" box and click "submit".
- go to the new appearing "Rules" tab
- put the following code into the text box:

Code: Select all

On System#Boot do
  gpio,10,0
endon
That switches off GPIO10 at boot.

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Re: Ebay Wifi Relay boards

#35 Post by trackerj » 27 Mar 2017, 10:56

Shardan wrote: 26 Mar 2017, 16:28
trackerj wrote: 25 Jan 2017, 14:34
Shardan wrote:

Well, that might be true or not.
But if that is really tested, why didn't the manufacturer notice, that the used relays are not designed for european mains voltage?
Take a near look ath the relays: 125V~ maximum! I would not use that module for home automation switching mains voltage.
If something goes wrong and it gets on fire your insurance might have a word for it....... "No!"
Dear Shardan,

I am very sorry but is NOT true your statement above: The LEG-1A-12F relays (15A version not 10A one) used for the MPRSx8 Home Automation Board are also working OK for 240VAC.
Notabene: I have two Linknode R8, ordered from an european seller. The relays on that boards are definitely not approved for 230V.
As I do not use them for mains voltage, it doesn't matter for my purposes, but....

Regards
Shardan
Dear Shardan,

I must admit that I really cannot understand based on what facts you can state that the relays type from above are DEFINITELY NOT approved and not working properly on EU 240VAC.

I have on my desk the LEG-1A-12F Relays:
- UL Approval File.
- TUV Germany testing and validation report.
- ROHS certificate.

These boards are not made with whatever parts have fallen from the truck last night in the Shenzhen Market, they are comming from reputable chain suppliers.

For such a Applications Dev Board they are more than suitable and for any special requests can provide also more fancy and expensive options from OMRON, FINDER, FUJITSU-TAKAMISAWA, etc.

In 20+ years of Engineering I learnt to avoid to end up with so strong beliefs based only on some assumptions ...

Happy breadboarding,
TJ.
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#36 Post by Shardan » 27 Mar 2017, 11:07

The imprint on my relay says nothing about more then 125V.
That is what i can see.
In 20+ years of Engineering I learnt to avoid to end up with so strong beliefs based only on some assumptions ...
Okay. So i'm just making assumptions and can not read what is printed on my relays.
I'm electronics tech for about 40 years now, IT tech for about 30 years.

I'll stop this debate at this point as it get into personal defamations.
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#37 Post by Dylantje » 27 Mar 2017, 17:38

Dear all.
Please make love not WAR... :D

I'am very happy with this answers and this very cheap board...
I do have have a other board to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgllGQ_X0I&t=487s
Expensive, only not better.. :cry:


I am a BOB the brick layer... so i am happy with all of the support.. :roll: :lol:


So what is the problem...

Peace ..

xxxx

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#38 Post by Dylantje » 01 Apr 2017, 21:18

A problem...
From this day the espboard is restarting in after 3 minutes...
Did try a lot other setting..
No luck @all

Is there a way to set back the factory of the ESP software?
Cannot reach the board with the webgui anymore.. [ did something wrong in the hardware settings i think :-) ]

Or need i t reflash the board?

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#39 Post by Shardan » 01 Apr 2017, 21:44

Hello Dylantje,

you may try to reset it via the serial port using the Arduino IDE or ESPlorer, sending a "reset" to the ESP.

Or you may try a hard reset:
- Switch off the ESP
- Connect Rx and Tx pins to eachother
- switch on and wait at least a minute.

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Re: Ebay Wifi Relay boards

#40 Post by Dylantje » 02 Apr 2017, 17:21

Thanks

The hard reset was the option.
Replace a backup and everything is working oke...

Love

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Re: Ebay Wifi Relay boards

#41 Post by luisfcosta » 20 May 2017, 07:47

Hi guys

I notice this thread mentions LinkNode R8 so I am trying my luck here
After I uploaded the Easpeasy R120 to a R8 board, and start configuring it, I notice after the 6-7th device (switch input), the board starts rebooting continuously, making it impossible to use.
Has anyone experienced the same?
I have uploaded using Arduino 512k/64 spiffs/QIO, generic esp8266 on my Mac
My next step would be to go to my windows and upload one of the compiled images with the esptool.exe, but my hopes are not high

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#42 Post by Dylantje » 20 May 2017, 11:06

Try to use the esp easy script to do the flash...

What happend then?

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#43 Post by Shardan » 20 May 2017, 14:37

The LinkNode R8 uses a ESP-12E.

The ESP-12E has 4096 KB flash.
Using the R1xx Versions please use a 4M (3M SPIFFs) memory model.
If self compiling with Arduino IDE you may simply use the "nodeMCU 1.0" setting.

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#44 Post by luisfcosta » 22 May 2017, 08:29

My 340 drivers are not working with me on my Windows 10
And I did tried with 4M/64SPIFFS but with the same result
The board compiles and uploads well with the Arduino IDE and works very well until, after I have configured the 7th relay, starts rebooting every 10 secs
In another time it was when all relays were ON.
Still pending uploading using esptool.exe on my windows
Thanks for the tips!

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#45 Post by Shardan » 22 May 2017, 13:57

Try 4M/1M Spiffs for the R147/R148 or 4M/3M Spiffs for the 2.0.0.DEVx.

I'm using ESPtool for flashing mostly, should work.

For a try flash a readily compiled R147 from the wiki to the board.

The CH340 should usually run on win10 too. I've seen drivers for the chip and win-10.

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#46 Post by Dylantje » 23 May 2017, 13:49

mmm Hope you can help....

2 the same linknode 8 relais boards.
the same motion
the same firmware.
the same complete setup. [ hardware settings/ untick ttl etc etc ]
use gpio 1 for dht, like you learned me here :-)
use gpio 3 for motion... :-)

Stange thing.
1 board works perfect.
the other board [ everything the same ] is acting on and off without motion [ incl 10k resister ]
The time is different.
without motion, d3 is on and off. ...
grrrr.

Is there a background setting or something else ti can set.
build a nice switching module,....
only now i cannot use the motion..

Help or something...

xxx


Did found a strange thing..:
Board 1;
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sw:0
sw:1
Switching the motion, looks ok.

Only board 2:
ScreenShot008.jpg
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sw:0
sw:1 [ should be switching ]
Only there is a gpio switch after.
That i did not maken..

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#47 Post by Shardan » 23 May 2017, 16:42

hm...
may a stupid question... some of these PIR boards have a jumper that changes the way it Switches.
Both set same, if so? Sensivity setting of the sensor equal?

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#48 Post by Dylantje » 23 May 2017, 17:08

Shardan wrote: 23 May 2017, 16:42 hm...
may a stupid question... some of these PIR boards have a jumper that changes the way it Switches.
Both set same, if so? Sensivity setting of the sensor equal?

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no jumper on the same boards, i use the + and - for the sensors.
No settings possible bij the sensors.

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#49 Post by Shardan » 23 May 2017, 19:42

Then you're using another sensor then me :)
possibly the "mini" sensors .. i never tested them.

Amyways... is it possible to swap the two sensors to see if the seonsor or the linknode causes the problem?

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#50 Post by Dylantje » 23 May 2017, 22:13

Shardan wrote: 23 May 2017, 19:42 Then you're using another sensor then me :)
possibly the "mini" sensors .. i never tested them.

Amyways... is it possible to swap the two sensors to see if the seonsor or the linknode causes the problem?

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Did swap... [ not with my wife :-( ]
No luck..

The most strange thing.

I did a test setup..
Works for weeks... [ in my garage ]
After a hard reset because i set something wrong..
This strange thing is happening..

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