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Control panel

#1 Post by BertB » 27 Dec 2015, 21:23

I would like to create a nice wall mount panel to read and control values and devices.
I tried a 7 inch tablet with a web browser into my Domoticz controller (RPI), but I find the icons too large and the usable screen too small (large part is consumed by the web browser).

So, I am thinking of making something myself, based on an RPI with touchscreen and some Lazarus, python or so software.

Does anybody here have any experience with doing this, or does anybody know if there is existing software around that serves my purpose.

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#2 Post by mkotek » 27 Dec 2015, 23:20

phpMyDomo?
I did not like it too much, but it works and allows you to manipulate screen size.
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#3 Post by BertB » 28 Dec 2015, 13:17

mkotek wrote:phpMyDomo?
I did not like it too much, but it works and allows you to manipulate screen size.
hmmm tried it, but I do not like it either

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#4 Post by doxikus » 28 Dec 2015, 14:16

Hi,

Maybe to try with some cheap 7" android tablet and browser in kiosk mode as for software part do some custom coded dashboard, domoticz have already few interesting topics regarding to diy control panels.

I have also try with RPi and 3.5" touch LCD but without satisfying results, so right now I looking for tablet to do all work.

Here is example of my custom dashboard https://goo.gl/photos/7SSUAG4gTmcJkQ8N9

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#5 Post by kr0815 » 28 Dec 2015, 20:01

I don´t know about domoticz, could it be controlled by http, Telnet or something like this ?

I bought a 60 Euro Huawei Phone only for that purpose, it´s attached to the wall with magnets and running since over a year now


You will never get a raspberry or such things that small like a tablet/mobile phone

As Software i use netio, available for IPhone and Android.

http://netio.davideickhoff.de/en/

They have an online Editor, where you could place your Buttons, sliders,...
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Re: Control panel

#6 Post by doxikus » 28 Dec 2015, 22:03

Hi,

This setup with netio looks nice, but I think that BertB want to use domoticz as controller. Problem is that domoticz is not very well supported on mobile devices, info boxes are hard to read and switch control can be very tricky to use. As I understand Bert looking for something that it will have all devices on one screen with possibility to interact with each, on/off switch, dimmer etc. It can be achieved by using custom domoticz dashboard screen which is displayed inside browser window. Here are some examples and good point to start.
Also I'm trying to develop my own custom dashboard and display all relevant information on one html page:
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this is my sensor reading placed around house, one dht22 inside house and two ds18b20 in boiler room in garage

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#7 Post by kr0815 » 28 Dec 2015, 22:57

Sorry when it´s out of topic, i have to confess i know nothing about domoticz, but there musst be something special about it ?

I already wondered why Martinus made all the effort to specially integrate domoticz in this very outstanding project ?
(Why not just a generic HTTP Interface ? )

I searched in Google, that´s what i found:
https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Domoticz_API/JSON_URL's

So is it not possible in domoticz to switch a light on, push a sensor value or get a status by a simple HTTP-Request ?

I use FHEM, but more or less only as an Interface to hardware like Homematic - the Netio Thing i mentioned is just an Interface, has nothing to do with any special home automation software

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#8 Post by BertB » 29 Dec 2015, 11:37

doxikus wrote:Hi,

Maybe to try with some cheap 7" android tablet and browser in kiosk mode as for software part do some custom coded dashboard, domoticz have already few interesting topics regarding to diy control panels.

I have also try with RPi and 3.5" touch LCD but without satisfying results, so right now I looking for tablet to do all work.

Here is example of my custom dashboard https://goo.gl/photos/7SSUAG4gTmcJkQ8N9
Good idea. Looks very nice.

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#9 Post by BertB » 29 Dec 2015, 11:40

kr0815 wrote:So is it not possible in domoticz to switch a light on, push a sensor value or get a status by a simple HTTP-Request ?

I use FHEM, but more or less only as an Interface to hardware like Homematic - the Netio Thing i mentioned is just an Interface, has nothing to do with any special home automation software
Yes it is possible to read values.
The main problem is the creation of the fabric of the panel. Well, let's call it a challenge :-)

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#10 Post by BertB » 29 Dec 2015, 11:43

kr0815 wrote:I don´t know about domoticz, could it be controlled by http, Telnet or something like this ?

I bought a 60 Euro Huawei Phone only for that purpose, it´s attached to the wall with magnets and running since over a year now


You will never get a raspberry or such things that small like a tablet/mobile phone

As Software i use netio, available for IPhone and Android.

http://netio.davideickhoff.de/en/

They have an online Editor, where you could place your Buttons, sliders,...
This is nice ... I have to study it a little more, but it looks great.

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#11 Post by doxikus » 29 Dec 2015, 12:30

kr0815 wrote: I already wondered why Martinus made all the effort to specially integrate domoticz in this very outstanding project ?
(Why not just a generic HTTP Interface ? )
Well, many people already hove some sensors controlled by domoticz (reading values trough sensor, custom rules based on readings, notification, switches, etc), and we have opportunity to add espeasy and control trough domoticz, same thing like you do with FHEM.
kr0815 wrote: So is it not possible in domoticz to switch a light on, push a sensor value or get a status by a simple HTTP-Request ?
Well, it is possible to switch light on with http-request but there is some limitation and you need to have some custom scripting, most of action can be achieved by javascript https://github.com/paulvelzeboer/Frontp ... master/www. Also espeasy have more details on this http://www.esp8266.nu/index.php/Relais for example
kr0815 wrote:I use FHEM, but more or less only as an Interface to hardware like Homematic - the Netio Thing i mentioned is just an Interface, has nothing to do with any special home automation software
In this setup you have one software more FHEM -> Netio, in domoticz you can already monitor all sensor nodes and interact with hardware but interface is not yet full mobile ready. In compare with other home automation software, domoticz is near top because of large range of supported hardware, it is lightweight and it can be installed on most today popular platforms, I'm running domoticz on my synology nas.

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Re: Control panel

#12 Post by BertB » 30 Dec 2015, 20:48

I am now studying https://github.com/aiolos/frontpage

It is very impressive.

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#14 Post by BertB » 05 Jan 2016, 21:08

Is sure is, but does it work with Domoticz?

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#15 Post by doxikus » 05 Jan 2016, 21:21

Hi Bert, I think this is only for FHM controller, but it can be also integrated in domoticz :-).

Yes you have option to create custom dashboard page, but there is no "out of box" solution, problem is simple each domoticz installation is different, for example I have only few temp/humidity sensor and in feature I think I will have few dimmers and relay switch and someone else have different setup and devices, so it cannot be created universal custom dashboard :-). As for domoticz you can reuse some templates that community share or go with custom option and create one that fits your needs. For example here is good starting point for this, if you need any help please post here and I will try to help with code or some more detailed guidelines.

I also looking to option with tablet and domoticz custom dashboard.

Almost forgot for link: https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/CustomStatusPage

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#16 Post by BertB » 05 Jan 2016, 21:45

Thanks.
I see your point regarding the diversity in applications.
Some else also pointed me to the Domoticz wiki page and as a matter of fact, I am messing around with the monitor made by vil1driver.
It took a while, but It is starting to work for me. Only thing that is worrying me is that it is getting slow.

Thank you for your help.

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#17 Post by kr0815 » 06 Jan 2016, 23:09

Regarding the diversity, that´s why i suggested NetIO (or any other generall application)

I prefer controlling things directly, by HTTP or maybe also MQTT, so i´m always able to switch components , even the controller software, and take the best off all worlds

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