Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
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Re: Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
btw what touch sensors did you order . I have tried both the red ttp223 and the blue ttp223 boards . The blue i couldnt get to work correctly even on the breadboard .The only way i could get it to turn on is by directly putting my finger on the TTP223 chip itself.
Re: Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
Hello Genesys,
These sensors do not work on contact but by capacity.
Even if you touch the sensor itself you usually won't get in electrical contact,
there is a lacquer coat on the copper.
Your finger and the sensor build a capacitor, small but big enough to trigger the sensor chip.
I don't know the dielectric constant of PLA, it might be good enough to make the sensor work even through the PLA.
Pure PLA is classified as "Isolating" if i remember right. That says it has around 10^12 Ohm.
But there are variants that are classified "AntiStatic" or "conductive", says they have a lower resistance.
I've ordered samples of several types as they are a dime a dozen:
https://www.aerial.net/shop/imageslarge ... 23_top.jpg
http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_434360_1.jpg
https://4.imimg.com/data4/PM/EH/MY-1833 ... 00x500.jpg
Anyways it will take a while due to the well known hyperspeed of chinese snailmail
If i get some i'll take one of my sonoffs and check.
Due to the datasheet you should not remove the ceramic capacitor, use the biggest possible (50pF) instead:
The value of Cs use smaller, then the sensitivity will be better. The sensitivity adjustment must
according to the practical application on PCB. The range of Cs value is 0~50pF.
Datasheet: http://www.tontek.com.tw/download.asp?sn=475
(Always fun to read english from chinese translators )
Regards
Shardan
These sensors do not work on contact but by capacity.
Even if you touch the sensor itself you usually won't get in electrical contact,
there is a lacquer coat on the copper.
Your finger and the sensor build a capacitor, small but big enough to trigger the sensor chip.
I don't know the dielectric constant of PLA, it might be good enough to make the sensor work even through the PLA.
Pure PLA is classified as "Isolating" if i remember right. That says it has around 10^12 Ohm.
But there are variants that are classified "AntiStatic" or "conductive", says they have a lower resistance.
I've ordered samples of several types as they are a dime a dozen:
https://www.aerial.net/shop/imageslarge ... 23_top.jpg
http://img.dxcdn.com/productimages/sku_434360_1.jpg
https://4.imimg.com/data4/PM/EH/MY-1833 ... 00x500.jpg
Anyways it will take a while due to the well known hyperspeed of chinese snailmail
If i get some i'll take one of my sonoffs and check.
Due to the datasheet you should not remove the ceramic capacitor, use the biggest possible (50pF) instead:
The value of Cs use smaller, then the sensitivity will be better. The sensitivity adjustment must
according to the practical application on PCB. The range of Cs value is 0~50pF.
Datasheet: http://www.tontek.com.tw/download.asp?sn=475
(Always fun to read english from chinese translators )
Regards
Shardan
Regards
Shardan
Shardan
Re: Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
Would changing the sensitivity help any? Right now i can get it to turn on with my finger about 6mm off of the board . Theres only one capacitor that comes on the board which i probed to be a 90nf ceramic cap and its the C1 cap as per datasheet between VCC and GND . The board does not come with a cap on the sense pin. Shouldnt there be a cap on the sense pin with a value between 0 - 50pf as per the datasheet? Im guessing they just dont put a cap(0 value) so the sensor is at max sensitiviy . Could adding a 50pf NPO ceramic cap off the sense pin help my problem?
The blue boards are different from the red boards . The blue board doesnt have a C1 cap at all and come with a 50pf cap off the sense pad pin .
The blue boards are different from the red boards . The blue board doesnt have a C1 cap at all and come with a 50pf cap off the sense pad pin .
Re: Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
Hello,
the pictures a Google and AliExpress show some differences, maybe soe not... that's why i ordered several different ones ( and hope i'll get the same with the enxt order )
Just give a 50pf at the sensing pad a try. Worst that might happen is it stops working and you have to remove it. 6mm seems very sensitive to me.
Regards
Shardan
the pictures a Google and AliExpress show some differences, maybe soe not... that's why i ordered several different ones ( and hope i'll get the same with the enxt order )
Just give a 50pf at the sensing pad a try. Worst that might happen is it stops working and you have to remove it. 6mm seems very sensitive to me.
Regards
Shardan
Regards
Shardan
Shardan
Re: Sonoff basic with touch switch problem
Hello,
have you made it work with AC to DC power?
have you made it work with AC to DC power?
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