Domestic wall Wall switches, what kind of input switches do you use? (niko, bticino,...) to control input on ESP ?

[DeNB3rt]

Hi Guy's

I'm currently testing with a relay board on an ESP module to control my household lighting.

A second ESP is placed in the wall behind the existing wall switches.
The wall switch is connected with a GPIO and a pull-up resistor.



This is working well, but when I use the software button in Domoticz, the 'old' hardware switch is in a wrong position.
I have to click twice on it to disable/enable the signal on the ESP module. Because of NO or NC contact.
Do you get my point?

I know that I should use a simple a push button,
example:


But I was wondering if some of you have experience with a household version like that

[papperone]

I think it really depens on specific country standards.
In Italy we usually have modular system like this:

I replaced the "switch" modules with the "push button" modules as they looks exacty the same but better fitting to connect them to ESP8266 modules to act as "activators" for my home automation system.
Esthetically nobody can see the difference and I got a very high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor!)

[ManS-H]

Hi Guy's

I'm currently testing with a relay board on an ESP module to control my household lighting.

A second ESP is placed in the wall behind the existing wall switches.
The wall switch is connected with a GPIO and a pull-up resistor.



This is working well, but when I use the software button in Domoticz, the 'old' hardware switch is in a wrong position.
I have to click twice on it to disable/enable the signal on the ESP module. Because of NO or NC contact.
Do you get my point?

I know that I should use a simple a push button,
example:


But I was wondering if some of you have experience with a household version like that

What do you think about something like this:
https://info.elektroshop.nl/schakelmate ... chakelaar/

[DeNB3rt]

I think it really depens on specific country standards.
In Italy we usually have modular system like this:
I replaced the "switch" modules with the "push button" modules as they looks exacty the same but better fitting to connect them to ESP8266 modules to act as "activators" for my home automation system.
Esthetically nobody can see the difference and I got a very high WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor!)

Thanks for the tip!
Indeed, WAF is needed in this project to get fund for my ESP home automation project
Those Vimar's looks nice, but here in Belgium the most used brands are Niko, Bticino


I see Vimar do have Eikon tactil push buttons

With labels over backlight:


I also found one in the niko catalog, not that fancy...:

[papperone]

also BTicino is an italian brand, so I guess their system should be modular and compatible with Belgium systems/wall plugs:


The italian system is typical with 3 modules (as you can see in my picture) and you can combine them as you wish, the same is BTicino, so maybe they have plates compatible with your home system where you can connect up to 2 stadard "modules" which can be indeed simple pushbuttons or more complex button with icons and backlight...

[DeNB3rt]

[quote="papperone"]also BTicino is an italian brand.../quote]

Hi Papperone!
Yes, a month ago I was also looking to BTicino.
I love the modularity of their switches.

I prefer this one above the 'default Niko'.

But I can't find the exact partno for the 'push' buttons.

Here you have a push button, but It keeps on '1' or '0' after a push, you know?
For eg.


It should be more like a 'tick' button that gives a short '1' to our GPIO
Anyone?

[papperone]

also BTicino is an italian brand.../quote]

Hi Papperone!
Yes, a month ago I was also looking to BTicino.
I love the modularity of their switches.

I prefer this one above the 'default Niko'.

But I can't find the exact partno for the 'push' buttons.

Here you have a push button, but It keeps on '1' or '0' after a push, you know?
For eg.


It should be more like a 'tick' button that gives a short '1' to our GPIO
Anyone?

Those are simple mechanical pushbuttons, the output is "closed" as far as button is kept pushed and "open" when button is released...
You shoudl be able to browse the catalog from their website here http://www.catalogo-sfogliabile.bticino.it/cg/# even thou it's in italian but pictures and part numbers are there
If you need help please let me know and I'll do my best!

[neykov_t]

HI, i am plannig to to something similar with my lights, but still cant fugure how to power ESP. In my country ( Bulgaria) Instalation standart is one something like this
null ---------------------------------------Lamp |
live ____________/switch\______________|

so next so my wall switch i have only live cable.. How is your setup ?

[papperone]

HI, i am plannig to to something similar with my lights, but still cant fugure how to power ESP. In my country ( Bulgaria) Instalation standart is one something like this
null ---------------------------------------Lamp |
live ____________/switch\______________|

so next so my wall switch i have only live cable.. How is your setup ?

you need to bring the neutral line (what you call "null") to the place where you have the switch and then use a small transformer 230VAC -> 5VAC/3.3VAC
alternative is to run a low power 2-wires cable (5VDC and GND) from somewhere (where you have a power supply) to the ESP8266 located in the switch, but this can create more issue specially if wires are long (voltage drop and instability)

[DeNB3rt]

You have 2 way's of achieve this, like paperone is saying.

1) place a small AC/DC transformer in the wall switch to bring the it to e.g. 5VDC like a phone charger? Then you can go directly to the 5v pin on a Nodemcu (other boards are 3.3v! take care).
2) place a bigger transformer (e.g. pc transformer) at your mains cabinet. So instead of bringing 230~AC to the switch, you bring 5v to it. Then you can place a esp board at the switch to capture switch signals and other sensor data.

In both cases, you can go with the 3.3v line through the switch (with pull up or down resistor) to the gpio input of the ESP.

[titoon]

Hello ,

it is possible to place this small voltage converter in your takes, it really does not take place, especially for those who use bticino, when you take the plate for 3 buttons, you place only 2 button and you have the remaining part free of 3 (I placed the buttons on the ends of the turntable and the converter in the center)

sorry for my english, i'm french speaking belgian , Phil

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