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- 30 Nov 2022, 14:48
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3733
Re: Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
One of these capacitors i had lying around (the single one on the right which is 330uF and 16V). I changed it... no smoke... or fire... and it works again like nothing ever happened. I love this forum specially Mr. TD-er :) Thanks for taking your time i hope this thread will save many SonOFFs from t...
- 30 Nov 2022, 12:37
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3733
Re: Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
Sorry for the late reply a virus tied me to bed for a few days. Both your answers pointing in the direction of the power conversion from 220V which of course makes sense. I wasn't surprised that capacitors don't last forever. But it's a bit shocking to hear that they might create problems already af...
- 27 Nov 2022, 11:07
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3733
Mysteries behavior of Sonoff S20 - how can that be?
Hi, since years i am using a few Sonoff S20 flashed with ESPeasy without issues. Two days ago one device wasn't accessible any more so I looked into it and found out that in only works when connected with a 3,3V power source on the pin headers. But when i plug it into the 220V power plug. It is not ...
- 05 Oct 2022, 12:06
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Calculate: Unknown token input: 40 do = 0
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2971
Re: Calculate: Unknown token input: 40 do = 0
Grrrrr. And i said it was based on the wiki. But yea. There is no "do" in the wiki in the if statement (any more?).
Thanks for the correction
Works as it should now.
Thanks for the correction

Works as it should now.
- 05 Oct 2022, 11:40
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Calculate: Unknown token input: 40 do = 0
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2971
Calculate: Unknown token input: 40 do = 0
Hi there, I am not sure why this simple rule does not work any more. I have used it a few years ago. But when i try using it on the new built. It gives me the error: Calculate: Unknown token input: 40 do = 0 Here my (simplified) rules which are based on the wiki: on BME_280#Temperature do if [soil#A...
- 10 Nov 2020, 06:10
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12274
Re: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
My OH2 ".items" file defines the MQTT send/receive actions. Oh i see. That's not so easily possible in Domoticz. I could have converted the message via NodeRed but i just like to keep it simple. The link from TD-er solved my problem. It seems that Domoticz MQTT helper is mandatory since t...
- 09 Nov 2020, 10:09
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12274
Re: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why?
Hi, sorry for late reply and thanks for your informative post. I am still not sure if i understand your solution. When i toggle a switch in Domoticz. It will send a MQTT switch-command to ESPeasy. How can that MQTT message trigger the RelayOn/Off event? How does OpenHAB do it? It works when i enter ...
- 04 Nov 2020, 16:22
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12274
Re: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why?
Hi, Perhaps your rules could be rewritten to use events to control the relay thanks for your answer. Unfortunately i am not a coder. So i am not really sure what you mean by "use events". According to this ESPeasy reference i already use events, if i understand it correctly: image_2020-11-...
- 03 Nov 2020, 12:16
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
- Replies: 8
- Views: 12274
inputswitch state is deprecated - Why? [SOLVED]
Hi, after some Wifi changes in my house i had to reinstall one of my Sonoff Smart Power socket. I flashed the blank file and after that the new release (ESP_Easy_mega_20201102_normal_ESP8285_1M). New install and i made exactly the same settings which i have on three other working Sonoffs. I went thr...
- 19 Jun 2020, 06:24
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
- Replies: 20
- Views: 36238
Re: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
Yes. The extended credentials works fine. *Thumbs up*
The same clientID for two devices will not work (I did that for testing and it took me a while to figure out what actually was the problem)
At the end i managed to receive data on Cayenne. Here my settings in case somebody else needs it:
The same clientID for two devices will not work (I did that for testing and it took me a while to figure out what actually was the problem)
At the end i managed to receive data on Cayenne. Here my settings in case somebody else needs it:
- 18 Jun 2020, 05:45
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
- Replies: 20
- Views: 36238
Re: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
Hmm. Doesn't seem to work on my side. I am running the mega-20200608 and when i input the Controller User. It cuts off 30% or so. Is that only a GUI problem or still not fixed?
- 17 Jun 2020, 10:41
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
- Replies: 20
- Views: 36238
Re: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
Do you know by any chance which controller i should choose to send data to Cayenne? Someone talked about "Generic MQTT"... But i don't see that in the last built.
- 17 Jun 2020, 06:12
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
- Replies: 20
- Views: 36238
Re: Intigrating ESP Easy to Cayenne
I don't think it has because i know how busy you guys are. But i would also love to have a Cayenne integration. Did anything happen in that direction? The issue today if I chose generic MQTT integration in the ESPEasy is that the key-length for Cayenne is longer than the webinterface allows. Is that...
- 20 May 2020, 16:37
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16772
Re: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
WARNING: Turns out that my constellation messed up my Analog Input. 20% of the measured values are off.
So for example the capacitive soil sensor gives me sometimes readings which are 10% or 20% higher or lower. When i change the 7-Ohm-reed-switch combo to a normal switch. All works perfect again.
So for example the capacitive soil sensor gives me sometimes readings which are 10% or 20% higher or lower. When i change the 7-Ohm-reed-switch combo to a normal switch. All works perfect again.
- 17 May 2020, 17:45
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16772
Re: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
Yes. Well, what happens if you add 2 of those, either in series, or parallel to each other? Does it still turn off and on at will? And does the Wemos boot up as expected? The 1 Ohm i had for testing was from a trim potentiometer. Yes. the D1 boots up without issues. So now i have a 7 Ohm resistor (s...
- 17 May 2020, 16:11
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16772
Re: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
I suspect that the power that your Wemos is using is enough to make the reed-switch 'stick' once turned on. According to the specs of the reed switch that should not happen. Or do i see that wrong? I just want a simple and small switch. Adding a Relay is not really what i want :roll: So i just figu...
- 17 May 2020, 15:43
- Forum: ESP Easy: Hardware
- Topic: Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 16772
Reed switch stays ON even without a magnet?!?
Heeello, i've got a weird problem which occupied my whole day without a solution. And now i am furious :o Situation: A Wemos D1 is powered directly to the 5V and GND from a 3,7V battery. And a reed switch is in between so i am able to turn the power on and off with a magnet . I unplugged everything ...
- 23 Apr 2020, 06:15
- Forum: ESP Easy: Projects / Applications
- Topic: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10190
Re: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
Ohhh yeah. That's what i was looking for.
It can be that easy. Thaaaank you
It can be that easy. Thaaaank you
- 23 Apr 2020, 05:39
- Forum: ESP Easy: Projects / Applications
- Topic: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10190
Re: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
Thanks for your reply. But my question still remains how am i able to access the web-control-penal to add rules or to add a device? Because in AP mode i can only see the wifi-settings page when i open 192.168.4.1.
- 22 Apr 2020, 18:22
- Forum: ESP Easy: Projects / Applications
- Topic: How to log fridges temp remotely and send mail if alarm ?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 19860
Re: How to log fridges temp remotely and send mail if alarm ?
Another solution would be using IFTTT.
Basically ESPeasy sends a HTTP request to https://ifttt.com when temp too warm.
IFTTT reads the HTTP request (Webhook) and sends a mail or calls your phone or restarts your Tesla... you get the idea
Maybe IFTTT even has a direct connection to thingspeak.
Basically ESPeasy sends a HTTP request to https://ifttt.com when temp too warm.
IFTTT reads the HTTP request (Webhook) and sends a mail or calls your phone or restarts your Tesla... you get the idea

Maybe IFTTT even has a direct connection to thingspeak.
- 22 Apr 2020, 15:14
- Forum: ESP Easy: Projects / Applications
- Topic: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10190
Re: ESP EASY to work as standalone without login to WiFi
But I have a feeling that you are alone in what you are trying to achieve. Nope. He is not :D I try to make a mobile air quality sensor with PMS7003 and display using ESPeasy. I don't use AP mode for access and so all I can do is offer best-guess advice. Because i can only reach the wifi settings p...
- 08 Feb 2020, 10:47
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Variables for use in rules??
- Replies: 18
- Views: 33009
Re: Variables for use in rules??
Ohh. Thanks so much. Now i understand. I should have thought about that
I know... script kiddies like me are annoying.

I know... script kiddies like me are annoying.
- 08 Feb 2020, 07:40
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Variables for use in rules??
- Replies: 18
- Views: 33009
Re: Variables for use in rules??
Somehow i can't get it working 100% with the Let command. When soil humidity is higher than 900 it should set varia#2 to 2. And if this var#2 is 2 it should trigger a relay and increment a second variable (The incrementation of the second variable works). But somehow it doesn't enter the "if [v...
- 25 Nov 2019, 09:05
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: ESP Easy and GPIO in deep sleep
- Replies: 6
- Views: 9664
Re: ESP Easy and GPIO in deep sleep
Thanks for your detailed answer. That should even help me :) Somehow i am having problems to bring the Wemos into deep sleep now (Yes. GPIO 16 and RST is connected). Not really sure why... It just doesn't go to sleep... But i will report back after i figured it all out :) EDIT: Working now. Faulty w...
- 23 Nov 2019, 14:59
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: ESP Easy and GPIO in deep sleep
- Replies: 6
- Views: 9664
Re: ESP Easy and GPIO in deep sleep
Hi, I have a similar problem, but don't really understand how you guys solved that. Can you make a quick and dirty schematics of how you did that? These rules seem to work only with added components i guess?: On System#Sleep do gpio,5,0 endon Trying to build a solar powered dust sensor. So i have a ...
- 26 Oct 2019, 12:38
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
Okay. Thanks for the info. I will wait for a new release i can test.
- 26 Oct 2019, 05:57
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I use a NodeMCU only for these tests now. Wiped all data, flashed the new build. Only edited the rules and changed Log to Debug. But the log still looks the same and SendToHTTP doesn't work. Here the serial log: 332497 : WD : Uptime 6 ConnectFailures 0 FreeMem 18432 WiFiStatus 3 352942 : EVENT: Rule...
- 25 Oct 2019, 18:10
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I tried that already since yesterday, but whatever i do. The Debug-level never changes. These are my settings: debug.png And this is how my Log looks like: 15607: MQTT : Intentional reconnect 15651: MQTT : Connected to broker with client ID: ESPClient_5C:CF:7F:AB:81:21 15652: Subscribed to: domoticz...
- 25 Oct 2019, 15:09
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I didn't set up a controller. It's a blank fresh firmware. I only add the rules to make a http requests every 20 seconds.
- 25 Oct 2019, 14:21
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I tried quotes and also added a command for Domoticz: SendToHTTP,192.168.8.167,8080,"/json.htm?type=command¶m=switchlight&idx=27&switchcmd=On" SendToHTTP,34.226.171.107,80,"/update?api_key=SECRET&field4=1" But no success. I could go crazy :o But the quotes are...
- 25 Oct 2019, 12:25
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I tried the build from your download link. But same problem :( Just to be sure that the mistake is not on my side: I write the blank_4MB on the Wemos, then i flash your firmware (ESP_Easy_mega-20191016-11-PR_2667_normal_ESP8266_4M1M) i add the wemos to my wifi and set these rules: On System#Boot do ...
- 25 Oct 2019, 09:17
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
Today i set up a new Wemos D1 from a different computer and in a different location where they have "wired internet". And from there it worked flawless. But when i bring the Wemos back home where i only have internet via LTE modem. It won't send any data. The strange thing: One out of abou...
- 25 Oct 2019, 03:56
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I did edit your posts to remove the API key :) Thanks :D Can you also test with multiple values in Thingspeak? Just to see if something at the end gets lost or if it is some kind of extra character inserted. I tried with three values. And also "hard coded" values. Same problem :( I just r...
- 24 Oct 2019, 19:14
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
When i send a empty request to thingspeak from the browser like this: http://34.196.204.67/update?api_key=TOPSECRET&field4= In thingkspeak it shows empty as well. But in a different way. Maybe that info helps someone. From ESPeasy: 2019-10-24 16:47:27 UTC,136, 2019-10-24 16:52:27 UTC,137, 2019-1...
- 24 Oct 2019, 18:54
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
I tried that before already and tried it again now with 20s. But no successThingSpeak wants you to send in 15s intervals. You need to have the interval set to 15000.

- 24 Oct 2019, 18:33
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules
I have a update: I just read the arriving data at thingspeak. Something arrives at thingspeak. But with no data in it: 2019-10-24 15:58:14 UTC,117, 2019-10-24 15:59:14 UTC,118, 2019-10-24 16:00:14 UTC,119, 2019-10-24 16:01:14 UTC,120, 2019-10-24 16:02:14 UTC,121, 2019-10-24 16:03:14 UTC,122, 2019-10...
- 24 Oct 2019, 17:57
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules
a log on how it is sent to the server, please let me know. If you can tell me quickly how to get that. I will do :) I am online via a cheap LTE router in Indonesia. I tried two different routers with two different ISPs already. Hmm. When i use the hostename api.thingspeak.com in the Thingspeak cont...
- 24 Oct 2019, 17:33
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules
The only thing i can tell for now is that it happened once that the data was sent. One out of 200 requests. I have no clue why. Will investigate further and report here if i have any clues.
- 24 Oct 2019, 16:52
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Re: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules
So then i am not sure what i am doing wrong. :? SendToHTTP is just not working. When i put this in the browser it works: 34.196.204.67:80/update?api_key=XXXXXXXXXXXXX&field4=55 But why not from the rules? Hmm On System#Boot do //When the ESP boots, do timerSet,1,10 //Set Timer 1 for the next eve...
- 24 Oct 2019, 14:41
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
- Replies: 35
- Views: 34527
Weird interpretation of the &-Symbols in Rules / SendToHTTP not working
Hello, i try to send data from Dust Sensor to Domoticz via these rules: On Rules#Timer=2 do SendToHTTP 192.168.8.167,8080,/json.htm?type=command¶m=udevice&idx=41&nvalue=0&svalue=[dust#PM1.0] SendToHTTP 192.168.8.167,8080,/json.htm?type=command¶m=udevice&idx=42&nva...
- 28 Dec 2018, 10:53
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Very simple Temperature rule from Wiki not working?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5549
Re: Very simple Temperature rule from Wiki not working?
Shouldn't it be : On tempsolar#Temperature>20 do instead of : On [tempsolar]#Temperature>20 do ? -D Indeed... It's always the small thing things. Thanks. Works now. Maybe it's time to update the wiki. Two people struggled with it within two days. Your question is very similar to the one I answered ...
- 28 Dec 2018, 10:19
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: Very simple Temperature rule from Wiki not working?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5549
Very simple Temperature rule from Wiki not working?
Hi, i just tried to make some sort of thermostat. These are my devices: ter.JPG And this is my rule same as you can find in the wiki: on [tempsolar]#Temperature>20 do GPIO,13,1 endon Wiki: ex.JPG But even the temp is over 20. The Value of the GPIO13 always stays at 0. I am not a friend o the rules b...
- 13 Sep 2018, 22:37
- Forum: Staff Announcements forum
- Topic: Giveaway! 20pcs of programmers
- Replies: 53
- Views: 197776
Re: Giveaway! 20pcs of programmers
It seems you still need to fill this thread. So here are my 2 cents: I started my sensor-career with MySensors. That was already a amazing playground. Using the code provided by the (amazing) MySensors-community seemed to be the easiest way to flash your own sensors and actuators using Arduinos. Doi...
- 11 Sep 2018, 23:06
- Forum: Staff Announcements forum
- Topic: BIG announcement, the future of ESP Easy. [READ THIS IF YOU LOVE OUR FW]
- Replies: 105
- Views: 2182226
Re: BIG announcement, the future of ESP Easy. [READ THIS IF YOU LOVE OUR FW]
I'm glad to see many has joined the bud list! :D We only need 3000-4000 more now and we're good to go. Please spread the word for us will ya? A link in the forum header would do a good job :P So EVERYBODY in this forum can see it. I know you talked about a new site. But spending 30 minutes to imple...
- 09 Sep 2018, 18:56
- Forum: Staff Announcements forum
- Topic: BIG announcement, the future of ESP Easy. [READ THIS IF YOU LOVE OUR FW]
- Replies: 105
- Views: 2182226
Re: BIG announcement, the future of ESP Easy. [READ THIS IF YOU LOVE OUR FW]
You definitely should "promote" it more. For example a "Support us" button on the forum header which everyone can see or on top of every thread in the forum. With only the announcement. Guests or member are not aware of it. Many people looking for technical solutions and don't re...
- 07 Sep 2018, 17:54
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: No Publish after Deep Sleep
- Replies: 15
- Views: 13734
Re: No Publish after Deep Sleep
Coool
I didn't realize it's public though 
But i like your thinking. Change to a open source job. First step to our new society
Between 10.000 and 100.000 people searching for ESPeasy every month. Should be just enough to make you quit your jobs. Well... depends on how high your status is


But i like your thinking. Change to a open source job. First step to our new society

Between 10.000 and 100.000 people searching for ESPeasy every month. Should be just enough to make you quit your jobs. Well... depends on how high your status is

- 07 Sep 2018, 13:59
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: No Publish after Deep Sleep
- Replies: 15
- Views: 13734
Re: No Publish after Deep Sleep
Very cool options. Thx for the links. Click and pay is what i was looking for so Ko-fi it is :) Coming back to topic: After let it run for a while i realized that it only works 60% of the time. I observe the MQTT broker and the MQTT messages from my deep-sleep-node are only send randomly. Couldn't f...
- 06 Sep 2018, 20:57
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: No Publish after Deep Sleep
- Replies: 15
- Views: 13734
Re: No Publish after Deep Sleep
You are awesome. Thanks for the link.
I uploaded your test-build and it works without issues for now.
BTW: Is there a donate-button somewhere?
I uploaded your test-build and it works without issues for now.
BTW: Is there a donate-button somewhere?
- 06 Sep 2018, 20:10
- Forum: ESP Easy: Software
- Topic: No Publish after Deep Sleep
- Replies: 15
- Views: 13734
Re: No Publish after Deep Sleep
Hi, after i updated my weather station from ESPEasy_mega-20180522 to ESPEasy_mega-20180826 i experienced the same issue: System info data is sent after wake up (just for testing i added Voltage info in Devices). But the BME280 sensor data is not sent after wake up from deep sleep. Sleep awake time: ...
- 01 Jul 2018, 13:18
- Forum: ESP Easy: General Discussion
- Topic: Sending a serial command from ESPeasy to Arduino
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22874
Re: Sending a serial command from ESPeasy to Arduino
And how is the rule to send data over serial? That is the question of this thread.